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Karma: 1 |  | 2008 DNR charges for Tournament Permits
« Thread Started on Jun 1, 2007, 3:07pm » | ![[Quote]](http://images.proboards.com/buttons/quote.gif "[Quote]") |
Yes, our beloved legislature has approved a bill which will charge tournament organizations for the issuance of permits. And it's no small charge .... $120 per tournament !
This is quite a burden on smaller circuits such as C.A.S.T., as it equates to over 2 full entry fees. I'm trying to think of how to cover the cost next year, and your feedback is welcome.
Here are what I see as the options:
1. Leave everything as is and simply take out the $120 from the payback at each tournament. This really hurts our current nice payback percentage we have.
2. Raise membership fees and leave the paybacks at the tournaments just as they are now. For this year we would have incurred a $720 fee for permits. Guessing at about 30 teams (60 members) signing up, we'd need to increase the membership fee by $12. If we ended up with more than 30 teams, I would just put the money towards the TOC and year end awards.
3. Increase tournament entries to compensate for the $120. Probably $5 per entry would cover it. Payback percentage would be less but amounts would be the same as now.
4. Have C.A.S.T. pay it and eat the cost. Well, as much as I'd like to, I'm not going to operate these tournaments any further in the red than I already do. As you all know, or should know, we payback the best because I operate at 0 profit margin for myself, and in fact have run at a negative for the last 2 years.
5. Find a sponsor who would cover it. This would obviously be the best, as it would be a non issue. Pretty hard to find someone though. C.A.S.T. does operate as a non profit corporation, and is listed as educational fishing for women, so maybe if anyone knows of someone / someplace that would like to associate with us, that would be nice. Any ideas?
6. What can you guys think of?
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Karma: 1 |  | Re: 2008 DNR charges for Tournament Permits
« Reply #1 on Aug 3, 2007, 1:48pm » | |
The new permit fees are a reality, and we will have to deal with them.
What's really dumb is this fee is supposed to cover "administrative" costs that were somehow calculated for issuing the permits. Seems to me, now that they have to keep track of money they have more than likely only accomplished doubling or tripling the cost of administrating tournament permits.
The letter I received also stated they will be assessing these costs at the end of the year. You can bet they won't come back and say, "oh, those fees were too high". No, they'll realize the increase in administrative costs and boost them next year. And add the fee for assessing it. Oh boy, I can see this will only get worse.
It also says that non profit charity tournaments are exempt. We (C.A,S,T.) are a registered non profit corp under the use of our organization as an educational program for women (coed tourneys). So far, in my head banging with the DNR, this will not get the fee waived. The proceeds from the tournament, or a good percentage of it, needs to be donated to an eligible charity. Either way, it takes money from the fishermen.
Right now I'm leaning towards upping membership costs by $10 per person. I hate to do this, but I think the one time fee to the fishermen is better than taking away from the payouts. I think it will also help to prevent the "ringer" syndrome - where someone shows up to just one tournament because it's their home lake - and may help to get people to fish all the tournaments in the circuit to justify their membership fees. I'm thinking if we get more money than needed from the increase, I'll throw it in they Angler of the Year award or something. I'll have to assess my administrative costs to see if that is possible 
In any case, all tournament organizations will pass this cost on to the fishermen in one form or another, be it reduced prize money or increased memberships or entry fees, so this DOES affect every tournament angler.
- Mark
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